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So why mention it if no one is disputing it. You do admit all the evidence that exists is about a subject nobody ever disputed. So why even mention it?

What we are quibbling about is the magnitude of the muscle atrophy upon cessation of use of AAS.

No, I am talking about (further clarification) the LONG-term muscle-loss upon PERMANENT AAS-cessation (think 1-2 years after taking nothing, including NO ancillaries).

I’m not talking about the period between cycles. That was my whole point of why AAS is fuked up. You literally have to use it for life.

So if you start using AAS before reaching your natural peak, you’re actually left worse off than having never used, because you’ll go back to less muscular than you would be if you just trained natural.

There is a reason why the old guys all tell you to NOT TOUCH aas before you’ve reached your natural maximum, it’s not just a cute saying with no reason

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